International Education Committee                                                 Committee Meeting Minutes

March 26, 2003


Present:  Jonathan Majak, S.N. Rajagopal, Don Kuderer, Mehmet T. Aritan, Gary Gilmore, Sharon Scherwitz


Absent: Sarah Johnston-Rodriguez (excused); Jac Bulk (excused); Drew Stapleton (excused)


Consultants: Eric Kraemer, Jay Lokken, Lisa Swayhoover


Guest:  Nancy Navar


1. The meeting convened at 3:55 p.m.


2. Approval of the minutes from the last meeting was deferred until next week as this was a specially convened meeting.


3. Reports:

    Jay Lokken:

·         U.S.students studying abroad generally reported that they felt more safe abroad than in the US.

·         A meeting was scheduled by Office of International Education for the international students studying here. They met with the chancellor. Emergency contact information was given for them.  Student response to this meeting was good.  

·         Nevertheless the number of international students applying for study here is down.

·         SEVIS has misreported students at out of status at Colorado and Washington.

·         Students that would need new visas to return are being counseled not to go home as the granting of visas is becoming significantly delayed.

·         We are in compliance with SEVIS regulations. Lisbeth and others in the  International Education Office should be thanked for their hard work on this.


    Eric Kraemer:

·         Noted that we have sent out advertising for students to study abroad among modern language students.

4. The committee  discussed updates on the New Zealand Proposal by Nancy Navar and    Patricia Ardovino.

·         There is not yet a completed budget but the New Zealand Treking company estimates that their section will cost $6000 New Zealand dollars. No one knew what the exchange rate was exactly but this was estimated at about $4000 US.

·         The New Zealand Treking company has provided a detailed itinerary.  

·         Insurance was discussed. Dan Sweetman was confirming coverage for students for here.

    (i) The company from New Zealand will send a document to Dan about their coverage.

    (ii) Insurance is mandatory for students and voluntary for faculty.  Lisa and Nancy will work this out.

·         There was a question about Patricia not having previously traveled to New Zealand.

     (i)  Fran, the other team leader, has lived there on and off for a year and 1/2 and full time since the Fall.

     (ii)  New Zealand is a place very compatible with the U.S.

     (iii) Patricia is very fit for the outdoor activities.

     (iv)  There will be three instructors from the treking company who are native New Zealanders.

      (v) This trip will be more manageable as it has been revised for only one island.

·         It was asked how many students will be involved? About 40.

      (i)  About 10 students from UWL, About 10 students from other

      campuses in the US, About 10 students from New Zealand, and

      about 10 students with disabilities from New Zealand.

      (ii) There will be grant money from New Zealand to cover the cost for the New Zealand students with disabilities who are under 21.

·         There will be a UWL fee added.  Last year this was estimated at $3400.

      (i) Fran's salary will be paid by New Zealand.

      (ii) Patricia will have her salary and expenses paid by UWL.

      (iii) A third leader will need their expenses, but not salary paid.

      Nancy had a colleague at Illinois State who has been there

      twice in mind for this and if she does not accept a colleague from Utah might be asked.

      (iv) The cost of having this third person was discussed.

·         Could it be cheaper to have this person come from New Zealand?

·         Could this person be funded through a faculty development grant?

·         Might it be cheaper and easier to use a graduate student, and particularly a UWL Graduate Student. This option could also provide an educational benefit for the  graduate student.

·         Given the structured nature of this program and the use of the Treking company personnel is a third person necessary? Most programs need one leader per 15-20 students.

·         What are questions of liability for this third person? If we directly pay or contract out for this person do need to take out liability/health insurance for them?

·         A clear external argument needs to be made about why this particular person is necessary and what are the guidelines for liability.

·         Nancy stated that there is no firm commitment to need this third person.

      (v) What is the minimum number of students to consider that this program will be implemented?

·         The Treking company wants a commitment of 4-5 students by July 31.  With a minimum of 20 they can redo and reduce expenses.  Even more can be reduced is they have    33 and the New Zealand grant.

·         Patricia would like a minimum of 15 students; any less  than that and the Office of International Education must cover the loss.

·         Sept. 15-Oct, 1 may be a realistic cut off date for reaching sufficient numbers.

·          Advertising is now being done with local e-mails, flyers will be distributed at conferences, and universities  with disability programs will be contacted.  It is expected 1/3 of the students will come from UWL, 1/3 from other U.S. universities and 1/3 from New Zealand.

·         Orientation for this might be developed on Blackboard  particularly for off campus students.

·         The committee questioned when we could expect a completed budget.


5. The committee discussed the Gary Gilmore proposal for study tour to England and Wales.

·         This program has been running since 1989.

·          It involves undergraduate students, graduate students, and professionals. Typically it has 5-12 participants-no less  than 5 and no more than 15.

·          It will study major changes in national health care in comparison to practices in the US. 

·         Gary has long term contacts with health authorities and health practitioners.

·          The program will run over spring break.

·          The itinerary includes:

       (i) Several days in London with examination of the remains of Mr. Merrrick-Elephant Man.

       (ii)   Nightly dinners with a review of the days events.

       (iii)  A buddy system with paired travel of all students.

       (iv)  Travel to Wales with a visit to the Edward Jenner Clinic at Thornberry-the cite of the pioneer study about milkmaids/cow pox and a subsequent small pox vaccine.

        (v) In Wales, students job shadowing with prearranged health care professionals.  Students can email these contacts prior to their visits.

         (vi) A return to London.

·         Jay suggested that Gary may want to contact London Metropolitan University as they have health education programs similar to ours. There has been work with teachers connected with SUNY Cortland.

·         Gary will also prearrange van service for students to get from the airport to La Crosse.

·          Cost is $1998.

·         Raj suggested that this should be made mandatory for graduate students as is now done for students in some medical schools.


The committee  decided to discuss these proposals at the next meeting 3:45 Wednesday April 2 in room 329 Cartwright.


The meeting adjourned at 4:55 pm.


Respectfully submitted,


Sharon L. Scherwitz