Promotion, Tenure and Salary Committee Meeting

October 16, 2003

4:00 p.m., 432 CWH


Present:  Carol Miller, Joe Anderson, Dick Sullivan, Robin McCannon, Sue Kelly, Wahhab Khandker, Robert Carney

Excused: Deborah Dougherty- Harris

Absent:  Carl Foster


I. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting (MSP) Old Business:  Senate’s charges for us…

a.       Is there a salary compression problem for tenured Assistant Professors with substantial years of service relative to newly hired Assistant Professors?

·        Members questioned:  Is there really an issue here?  From where did this charge originate?

·        New data:

Ø      We have determined that there are approximately 15 cases in the entire university where the salaries are low in comparison to newly hired Assistant Professors, and other faculty who have been in the departments for similar or shorter periods of time. 

Ø      We do not know how much of that is because those individuals did not receive merit increases and/or

Ø      did not experience the salary increases associated with being promoted

Ø      Some of the difference in their salaries is due to the fact that Assistant Professors historically had not been receiving the full raises for those years when some of the raises UW-L faculty received were used to deal with compression in the Associate and Full Professor ranks


b.      Service and Promotion/Tenure/Retention/Merit:

·        Dick: Committee on Committee representative will be at our 10/30 meeting

·        Susan: JPC representative will be at our 11/13 meeting.

·        Forwarded email from Dick about why we have this charge and what our focus should be.

a.       “…PTS should not try to suggest ways in which we could increase participation…If the faculty and the senate better understood the role of service as it relates to retention/promotion/tenure/merit, then the feasibility of tracking would be better understood and perhaps the solutions would present themselves.” –Bob Hoar, Fac. Senate Chair

b.      Discussion of questions in Bob Hoar’s email: What is the service component?  How much does it count? How much is enough? Does serving on more than one senate committee help me?  Why should I serve after I make full professor?  Here were some of the ideas we discussed:


Ø      How much does service facilitate advancement/promotion?  It depends on the Deans?

Ø      Service translates into integrity in the university.  Many people participate, without other incentives (after promotion/tenure), for this reason alone.

                                                                                                                           i.      Those who feel a commitment to the university

                                                                                                                         ii.      Many see it as part of the job (teaching, scholarly activity, service), not just for merit.

Ø      Others do not continue serving because:

                                                                                                                           i.      Disillusionment of value of service

                                                                                                                         ii.      Do not feel that things actually get done in committees.

                                                                                                                        iii.      Much of the work is administrative busy-work

                                                                                                                       iv.      When you complete something, it goes to Fac. Sen., and nothing is done about it.

                                                                                                                         v.      There’s redundancy in the charges from year to year and from committee to committee.

Ø      Suggestions for increasing service:

                                                                                                                           i.      Communications from Senate to faculty about what committees have accomplished need to increase.

                                                                                                                         ii.      Have a “Faculty Service Day”, like Faculty Research/Scholarly Activity Day and Faculty Teaching Day.

                                                                                                                        iii.      Administration should avoid taking control or co-opting committee charges.

                                                                                                                       iv.      Senate needs to take committee recommendations seriously.  Implement and follow up on suggestions. 

II.    Next meeting Oct. 30th, 4:00 pm in 432 CWH.

II.                 Adjournment 5:10 pm.


Respectfully submitted:

Carol D. Miller